[1. Call to Order]
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GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING WORK SESSION FOR JUNE THE 11TH.
YEAH, WE'LL DO IT. WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
MAYOR BRIAN MOCK. HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM PAUL STOVALL.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JIMMY FURST. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHN MESA.
HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LESLIE ROBSON. COUNCIL MEMBER ELMER VEITH.
HERE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL NEED SOMEBODY TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL TAKE US DOWN TO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING.
[3. Public Hearings]
I'LL READ THE RULES OF ORDER FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ZONING MATTERS.THE HEARING SHALL BE PRESIDED OVER BY THE MAYOR.
PROPONENTS OF EACH PROPOSED ZONING DECISION SHALL THEN BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATION OF DATA, EVIDENCE AND OPINION CONCERNING THE ZONING DECISION.
IF ALL TEN MINUTES ARE NOT USED, THE PROPONENTS REMAINING TIME MAY BE RESERVED FOR REBUTTAL.
OPPONENTS OF EACH PROPOSED ZONING DECISION SHALL THEN BE ALLOWED A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATION OF DATA, EVIDENCE AND OPINION CONCERNING EACH ZONING DECISION.
FOR PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE CITY CLERK.
PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE AND HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED.
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
THIS IS 3392 CHAMBLEE DUNWOODY ROAD. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MATT ADAMS, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE. THIS FIRST ITEM. 3392 CHAMBLEE DUNWOODY ROAD.
IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT, THOUGH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, SUCH AS THE CHAMBLEE INTERNATIONAL LOGISTICS CENTER PROPERTY HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME INDUSTRIAL INFILL IN RECENT YEARS. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IN QUESTION WITH NEIGHBORING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH AGAIN IS DIRECTLY SOUTH TO THE PROPERTY.
AS PART OF THAT STREETSCAPE INSTALLATION. THE REQUIRED PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREET FURNITURE WAS INSTALLED AND ARE STILL IN OVERALL GOOD SHAPE AND WORKABLE AND SERVICEABLE CONDITION. AS I SAID EARLIER, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS VILLAGE COMMERCIAL.
IT'S SURROUNDED BY OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED VILLAGE COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH, EAST AND WEST, AND BY A LARGE SWATH OF INDUSTRIAL TRANSITIONAL ZONING TO THE SOUTH.
THE CLOSER YOU GET TO PDK AIRPORT, THE MORE INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES THERE ARE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE BUFORD HIGHWAY DOWNTOWN CONNECTOR CHARACTER AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IS ASSIGNED A COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE.
AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL ZONING WOULD BE PERMITTED AS IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE AREA AS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED. AFTER THE PROPOSED REZONING, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO INSTALL A 26 UNIT LUXURY CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT.
THE CLOSEST COROLLARY TO THIS USE IN THE UDO IS CLIMATE CONTROLLED SELF-STORAGE USE, WHICH DOES HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUIREMENTS, AND AS SUCH, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDO, AND STAFF HAS COMMUNICATED ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THAT WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE REDESIGNED OR REQUIRE THE SUBMISSION OF VARIANCES AND WAIVERS.
THE APPLICANT HAS ELECTED TO HOLD OFF ON SUBMITTING VARIANCE AND WAIVER APPLICATIONS AT THIS TIME, PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THE REZONING REQUEST. SO AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING CHANGE WITH TWO CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR REGULATORY RELIEF.
THE PROJECT, AS CURRENTLY DESIGNED, WOULD REQUIRE.
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STAFF WOULD ASK THAT ANY CONDITIONAL APPROVAL REFERENCING A SITE PLAN MAKE IT CLEAR THAT COUNCIL IS NOT APPROVING PORTIONS OF THE DESIGN WHICH DO NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDO. THIS, OF COURSE, IS INHERENT TO COUNCIL'S APPROVALS OF ITEMS LIKE THIS, BUT THE CONDITION WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD CUT DOWN ON THE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND APPLICANTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING ON OTHER PROJECTS.WE WOULD RECOMMEND A CONDITION PROHIBITING OVERNIGHT STAYS FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY.
ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? YES.
[INAUDIBLE] I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT. I LOVE WHAT I DO SO I GET LONG WINDED.
BUT AGAIN, LEE JANEK, THE FOUNDER OF VAULT MOTOR CONDOS.
WE'RE REQUESTING THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT WE BUILD.
BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE USAGE FORMAT. IT'S VERY LOW IMPACT.
OUR COMMUNITIES ARE JUST THAT COMMUNITIES. I KNOW WE HAVE STORAGE IN OUR NAME AND STORAGE ON THE APPLICATION AND IT IS STORAGE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY, THEY ARE COMMUNITIES.
WE LIKE TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE COME INTO AND BASICALLY BUILD A SUBCOMMUNITY WITHIN, WITHIN EACH MUNICIPALITY. FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IT IS STORAGE, IT IS KIND OF MINIMIZED. SO EVERYONE PURCHASES THEM IT'S NOT A RENTAL TYPE SITUATION.
THE BIG THING IS WE WANT TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE, MAKING SURE WE BUILD SOMETHING THAT FITS THAT LOOKS APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURALLY WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT WITH IN AND OUTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AND THAT WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM.
THE ONE ITEM THAT MATT NOTED PREVIOUSLY IS THE NO OVERNIGHT STAYS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WRITE INTO OUR CC&RS SO IN ANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE EVER BUILD, NO ONE CAN HAVE AN OVERNIGHT STAY. SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S WATER, ELECTRIC PLUMBING.
THEY'LL BE OUTFITTED, USUALLY WITH A MEZZANINE OR LOFT.
YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A SMALL BATHROOM, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, A LITTLE BAR AREA.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. I'VE BUILT OVER HALF 1,000,000FT² OF THESE.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THAT BEING VIOLATED.
SO. ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK FOR NOW I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. BRANT HILL, 38, TEN HEARTS MILL LANE, BROOKHAVEN, GEORGIA. I ALSO HAVE INTEREST IN MULTIPLE PROPERTIES HERE IN CHAMBLEE.
LUXURY MOTOR COURT IS JUST A FANCY OR CONDO. SORRY, IT'S JUST A FANCY WAY OF SAYING IT'S STORAGE.
TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM PUBLIC STORAGE IS TO PREVENT ANY RENTALS OF ANY KIND.
IF IT'S OWNED BY SOMEBODY PERSONALLY, THEN THEY MUST BE HOLD IT AND NOT RENT IT OUT.
NOW, SINCE THEN, I'VE FOUND FOUR OTHERS I PICKED AT RANDOM, AND SOME OF THEM WERE RECENT.
SO MY THING IS HERE. IF THE PANEL KEEPS SAYING THAT WE WANT STRICT ADHERENCE TO CODE, MY QUESTION IS, IS WHEN DOES THAT START? BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT'S ONLY ONE PROPERTY AS OF THIS MOMENT.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THAT? SO THE ONE MAIN CONCERN THAT I'M HEARING IS THE ABILITY TO RENT.
WE ALSO HAVE WRITTEN IN OUR CC&R AGAINST THE RENTAL PROGRAM.
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SO IT'S IF YOU BUY IT, YOU USE IT FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE.THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE IF YOU SUBLEASE, YOU DON'T KNOW.
THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW WHO IS SUBLEASING TO WHO.
WE ALSO HAVE STRICT CC&RS AGAINST BUSINESSES.
SO WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE SUBLEASING TO A BUSINESS THAT MIGHT GO IN LANDSCAPE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUYING THESE UNITS ARE USUALLY VERY WELL OFF INDIVIDUALS.
WE'VE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF SPORTS CARS AND, AND WHATNOT IN THERE.
SO THE COMMUNITY IS KEPT UP, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL EVERYONE'S, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SPECIFIC ON WHAT THEY LIKE IN THERE, WHICH IS ALL HIGH END. SO IN OUR CC&R AND OUR POAS RENTALS ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT ALLOWED.
IN FACT, IN ONE OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES, JUST YESTERDAY, I HAD SOMEONE WANTING TO BUY FOUR UNITS AND HE WANTED TO BUY THEM TO LEASE THEM, AND I HAD TO TURN THEM AWAY. AND THAT NUMBER TO ME WAS A $1.6 MILLION LOSS.
COUNCIL MAY HAVE QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME. OKAY.
NEXT UP IS 3515 LONDON ROAD, KESWICK DRIVE AND ASHTON WOODS DRIVE.
THIS REZONING IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO PROPERLY PLAT THE PROPERTIES AS ANTICIPATED BY COUNCIL IN THAT LAND SWAP, WHICH WAS FINALIZED IN 2022 BUT WAS AGREED UPON IN 2021.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE.
STAFF IS REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE THE CHANGE OF ZONING USING THE OFFICIAL ADDRESSES OF WHAT ARE CONSIDERED THE PARENT PROPERTIES OR THE PARENT PROPERTIES THAT THESE PIECES WOULD BE SPLIT OFF FROM. HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD ONLY AFFECT THOSE PROPERTIES WHICH WERE TRANSFERRED BETWEEN ASHTON WOODS HEALTHCARE AND THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE IN 2021.
THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGES TO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MAP.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ZONING MAP ON THE LEFT AND THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP ON THE RIGHT.
ON THE RIGHT YOU WILL ALSO SEE THE FUTURE CONDITION OF THE LOTS ONCE THEY ARE PROPERLY PLATTED.
AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PROPERTIES ARE AS FOLLOWS.
ASHTON WOODS PROPERTY HAS A PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL FUTURE LAND USE.
LONDON ROAD HAS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND THE KESWICK PROPERTY HAS A PARKS, RECREATION AND CONSERVATION FUTURE LAND USE. THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT WOULD MEET ALL OF THOSE FUTURE LAND USES AND BE COMPATIBLE WITH THAT AS FAR AS ZONING COMPATIBILITY TABLE.
SO AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST AS SUBMITTED.
WITH THE ADDED CONDITION THAT THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS ONLY BECOME EFFECTIVE UNLESS AND UNTIL A PLAT, SPLITTING THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES RECEIVES APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND IS RECORDED WITH THE CLERK OF SUPERIOR COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT OF DEKALB COUNTY. THIS IS INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING SPLIT ZONED LOTS.
SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT AT THE TIME THE PLATTING OCCURS, THE ZONING WOULD BE USED FOR THAT REVIEW AND IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE AND THE MAP WOULD CHANGE AFTER THAT DATE. THANKS, MATT. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BAXTER RUSSELL, 1776 PEACHTREE STREET.
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF [INAUDIBLE] HEALTH. OUR GOAL IS, IN VIEW OF THIS APPLICATION THAT THE CITY HAS PUT FORTH, IS JUST A NATURAL, NATURAL AND LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE LAND SWAP THAT OCCURRED IN 2021.
WE WANT THE ZONING TO MATCH THE OWNERSHIP AND TO MATCH WHAT OCCURRED IN 2021.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR IS TO SUPPORT THAT.
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AND REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.THANK YOU. ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM.
AND SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING.
AND AM I ALLOWED TO ASK THE COUNCIL A QUESTION? NOT AT THIS TIME. SORRY. THIS IS A. [INAUDIBLE] YES.
WE'LL MAKE WE'LL MAKE SURE WE FIGURE IT OUT. ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, AGAIN, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT LATER.
THAT'LL TAKE US DOWN TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[6. Old Business]
THERE WAS THREE SETS OF MINUTES. DID ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED? GOOD, GOOD TO GO ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. UNDER STAFF ACTION ITEMS THIS EVENING WE HAVE THE 2026 MILLAGE RATE RESOLUTION.[8. New Business]
YES, MAYOR. THIS WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AFTER YOUR THIRD AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WILL BE ON TUESDAY, ON TUESDAY EVENING AT 6 P.M.. PUBLIC HEARING FOR NON ZONING MATTERS AHEAD OF YOUR REGULAR MEETING.AND YOU'LL TAKE UP THE RESOLUTION AFTER THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE HAVE THE 2026 CHAMBLEE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT MILLAGE RATE.
SO, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE YOUR ANNUAL MILLAGE RATE FOR YOUR DOWNTOWN SSD AND YOUR DRESDEN PLASTER SSD, AS WELL AS YOUR GO BOND MILLAGE RATE. AND SO DOWNTOWN SSD STAFF IS PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN THE MILITARY AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT IT WAS THIS PAST YEAR AND IN PREVIOUS YEARS. AND AGAIN, THAT DOWNTOWN SSD FUNDS, ADDITIONAL POLICE PERSONNEL, ADDITIONAL GROUNDS MAINTENANCE FOLKS. WE DID IN 2026 ALLOCATE SOME MONEY TO DESIGN THIS GREEN, GREEN SPACE OUT HERE. IT ALSO FUNDS ADDITIONAL TRAIL CAMERAS AND THERE IS SOME ARTIFICIAL TURF AND UPDATED BENCHES DOWNTOWN THAT, THAT, THAT FUND IS FUNDING THIS YEAR. WE'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT AND THEN DRESDEN PLASTER SSD.
THIS ONE IS NEW NEWER COMPARED TO THE OTHER ONE.
THIS FUND, WE'RE AGAIN PROPOSING TWO MILLS, WHICH IS THE SAME AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
IT IS FUNDING THE PHASE TWO DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF YOUR DRESDEN TRAIL PROJECT.
AND THEN ADDITIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG DRESDEN DRIVE AND FOSTER ROAD.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS POINT? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE G.O. BOND. AND THEN THIS IS YOUR THIRD AND FINAL SPECIAL LEVY.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THAT ITEM.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON DOWN TO THE COMPOST PROGRAM.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THE CITY HAS BEEN MEETING. CITY STAFF, HAS BEEN MEETING WITH COMPOST.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER FURST HAS BEEN A VOCAL ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROGRAM, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS.
DECATUR, THE CITY OF DECATUR HAS RECENTLY LAUNCHED A PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COMPOST NOW THAT GIVES RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE SERVICE AT A REDUCED RATE THROUGH THE CITY, THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
THE WHOLE PROGRAM WOULD RUN THROUGH COMPOST NOW DIRECTLY.
HOWEVER, THE CITY WOULD BE DOING EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND INITIATIVES TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO COMPOST AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EDUCATION ON COMPOSTING.
AND I WILL ALSO ADD THAT WE'VE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS MYSELF, AVONDALE ESTATES IN DECATUR AND MAYOR MOCK WAS INCLUDED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS TO PURSUE OTHER WAYS TO DIVERT WASTE TO THE LANDFILL THROUGH COMPOSTING AND ADDITIONAL RECYCLING AS A WAY TO REDUCE OUR TIPPING FEES WITH DEKALB SANITATION.
AND I WILL ADD THIS IS AT NO COST TO THE CITY DIRECTLY.
THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THAT JUST MAKES ME HAPPY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? LOTS OF QUESTIONS. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
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SO COMPOST NOW, THEY PROVIDE THE CANS. YES, THEY PROVIDE THE CANS.AND THOSE LOOK LIKE LARGE CANS FROM THIS PICTURE.
THEY'RE PRETTY SMALL. THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY SMALL. OKAY.
I USE THIS PROGRAM, COUNCIL MEMBER ROBSON. AND I HAVE A SMALL TWO GALLON BUCKET AT MY HOUSE.
BECAUSE THIS PICTURE DOESN'T LOOK SMALL. YEAH.
SO YEAH, THIS IS I'M NOT THAT'S NOT IT'S NOT ARGUMENTATIVE.
SO SO THEY COME ON A SCHEDULE AND PICK THIS UP AND THEN THEY DROP OFF COMPOST OR DO THEY GIVE IT BACK TO THE CLIENTS OR CUSTOMERS? NO, I BELIEVE THAT THEY TAKE IT AND THEY, BLAKE CAN PROBABLY BLAKE'S BEEN MEETING WITH THE COMPOST NOW, FOLKS, YOU CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WHAT THEY DO WITH THE COMPOSTING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BLAKE, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I DON'T HAVE A FULL ANSWER ON THAT JUST YET. THERE IS ABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REUSE THE COMPOST THAT WE'RE PRODUCING, SO THEY'LL GIVE US MEASUREMENTS OF HOW MUCH OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMPOSTING OUT, AND WE'LL GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE ON IF WE GET TO UTILIZE THAT OURSELVES YET. THERE IS A SERVICE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS COMPOST NOW THAT GIVES YOU CREDIT.
I THINK THE RESIDENTS DO GET CREDIT BACK TOWARDS THEIRS.
YES. PLASTIC CANS. YEAH. AND THEY'RE PROVIDED BY COMPOST NOW.
THEY ALSO PROVIDE THE LINERS FOR THEM AS WELL.
SO THEY DO HAVE A LINER. THEY DO. SO THEY'LL PROVIDE THOSE AS PART OF THEIR $19 A MONTH. THE ONLY RESPONSIBILITY RESIDENTS WILL HAVE WILL BE GETTING OUT THERE AT 6 A.M. ON THE DAY OF PICKUP AND CLEANING OUT THEIR COMPOST BINS.
BUT THEY, BUT THEY HAVE THAT COMPOST BIN SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY TAKE IT OUT LIKE A TRASH CAN. JUST LIKE A TRASH CAN.
YEAH. LINERS ARE BIODEGRADABLE. YES. AND THEY'RE PROVIDED BY COMPOST NOW.
THE REASON IF YOU WANT A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND, THE REASON DECATUR WENT THIS ROUTE WAS THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO GET A GRANT AND DO THEIR OWN COMPOSTING COMPOSTING PROGRAM. AND IT WAS SO UNAFFORDABLE FOR THE CITY TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
BUT THEY WERE USING COMPOST NOW'S PLACE TO DELIVER ALL THEIR COMPOST.
AND THEY BROUGHT THIS UP TO US AS LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO COME TO CHAMBLEE AND DO THIS AS WELL.
SO IT'S I THINK, JIMMY, YOU SAID YOU DID PROBABLY, WHAT, $40 A MONTH FOR YOU.
I'M PAYING 40 RIGHT NOW. IT'S HALF THE PRICE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I THINK THEY TAKE YOUR CAN.
I'LL ALSO ADD THAT THIS PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE NOT JUST TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WHO WOULD BE IN OUR SANITATION PROGRAM, BUT ALSO FOLKS THAT LIVE IN MULTIFAMILY CONDOS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
TOWNHOUSES, ALL OF THE, AND IT IS, IT'S $40 A MONTH? $19. $19. YEAH. OKAY. I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THEY HAVE HARD RECYCLING OPTIONS.
SO HARD RECYCLING OPTIONS. SO BATTERIES, TEXTILES THERE'S A PLASTICS NUMBER FIVE, PLASTICS NUMBER ONE, WHICH WE RECYCLE IN THE CITY THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET BAGS FOR THOSE AND THEY'LL COME PICK THOSE UP AS WELL.
AND HAD A BAG THAT I ALREADY PURCHASED THREW IT IN THERE.
AND WHEN I PUT MY COMPOSTING BUCKET OUT, THEY CAME AND PICKED THAT UP.
AND IT'S JUST REALLY EASY, REALLY GREAT PROGRAM.
WHAT ABOUT STYROFOAM? YEAH, IT'S NOT A PART OF THAT.
BUT YEAH, THEY KNOW AND THAT'S BUT THEY ACTUALLY WILL TAKE THEY'LL PROVIDE BAGS IF YOU ORDER THEM AND THEY WILL TAKE STYROFOAM AS WELL. OH, OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST NOT FOOD COMPOSTING, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A COMPLETE COMPOST RECYCLING PROGRAM AS WELL.
I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY.
AND THE ONLY PLACE THAT I CAN TAKE THEM TO IS EITHER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DECATUR, SCOTTSDALE, EVEN FURTHER DOWN THAN THAT, OR WAY DOWN ALMOST AT THE FEDERAL PEN AT WHERE CHARM IS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, THEY'RE RELOCATED. AND WHILE I'M A STICKLER FOR NOT COMPOSTING BUT RECYCLING, I TRULY AM.
IT JUST. I JUST WONDER IF THE COST OF GETTING IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE OF MY TIME, BUT ALSO THE GAS TO GET IT DOWN THERE OUTWEIGHS THE RECYCLING PART OF IT. AND IT TO ME, STYROFOAM IS ONE OF THE WORST.
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT CHARM IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY TURNED THAT INTO BUILDING MATERIALS.
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ABSOLUTELY. AND IF CHAMBLEE CAN BE A LEADER IN THAT OR, OR GET ON THE TEAM WITH THAT, I'M I'M ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR.BUT I ALSO HAVE COMPOSTED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND PLASTIC CAN STINK AFTER A WHILE, AND YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THE ODOR OF THE CAN.
I JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT A CERAMIC CONTAINER TO HELP PREVENT.
SO I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY GREAT TOO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY SURE OF THE AWARENESS THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT IT TAKES TO COMPOST AND TO RECYCLE. YEAH, I THINK [INAUDIBLE] HAD TWO THAT OUR APARTMENTS CAN COMPOST TO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS LIKE SOMETHING YOU CAN'T IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO HELP INCREASE THAT.
I WILL CALL OUT ONE OTHER FACT HERE IS THAT ALL FOOD SCRAPS.
SO THAT MEANS BONES, MEAT FISH CAN BE COMPOSTED HERE, WHICH WHEN I WAS HOME COMPOSTING.
THAT'S A BIG NO NO. SO THIS ACTUALLY REDUCES THE FOOD WASTE THAT GOES INTO THE STREAM THAT WE HAVE.
AND I ALSO POINT OUT THAT KRISTIN TOUCHED ON ONE THING IS THAT THE LESS THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO OUR TRUCKS, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR TRIPPING FEES IN THE FUTURE.
AND IF ANYBODY'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OUT THERE, TED TERRY COMMISSIONER TERRY HAS BEEN MAKING A BIG PUSH FOR COMPOSTING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO RAISE THE SHIPPING FEES BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO RAISE COSTS ON EVERYBODY. SO THIS IS A WAY WE CAN MITIGATE THAT AND DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THIS PLANET AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, EVEN LET'S GO BACK TO THE ODORS WITH LESS BIODEGRADABLE WASTE IN OUR TRUCKS, THE LESS THE ODOR IS GOING TO BE IN THE LONG RUN.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES THIS, BUT IF I GET BEHIND A GARBAGE TRUCK, I STOP, PULL OFF.
I CAN'T DEAL WITH THE ODOR. AND THAT'S THAT'S HUGE.
IT'S BIG BECAUSE THAT STUFF'S COMING OUT ON THE STREET.
IT HAS TO BE WASHED OUT ALL THE TIME. THEY HAVE TO BE DISINFECTED.
SO I'M ABSOLUTELY ALL FOR IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON COMPOSTING? ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S THE LENGTH OF CONTRACT ON THIS? I BELIEVE IT'S JUST LIKE YOU GOT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY UP TO THE CITY.
NOW YOU CAN GIVE A 30 DAY NOTICE TO CANCEL AT ANY TIME.
IS THERE A TARGET OF LIKE, HOW MANY RESIDENTS WE WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THIS PROGRAM TO, TO MAKE IT A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM? OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE LESLIE AND JIMMY RECYCLING? AND I MEAN, IT'S IT'S FUNCTIONING LIKE COMPOST NOW CURRENTLY OPERATES.
NOW HE PAYS $40 A MONTH. THIS IS THE SAME THING.
IT'S DIRECTLY CONTRACTED OR A DIRECT CUSTOMER SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE RESIDENT AND COMPOST NOW, THEY'RE JUST GETTING A REDUCED RATE IN THE CITY'S DOING EDUCATION OUTREACH ON IT. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DROP US. THEY HAVEN'T SAID THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE. I DON'T KNOW THE TARGET ON WHAT THEIR MARKET MIGHT BE AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CHAMBLEE BECAUSE WE ARE VERY DENSE IN A SMALL AREA. I KNOW WE'RE BIGGER THAN BOTH DECATUR AND AVONDALE ESTATES, BUT THEY SEEM READY UP FOR THE CHALLENGE.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS REALLY GOOD AT. LIKE, I THINK THEY'LL GIVE GOOD RESOURCES TO THEM TO LIKE INFORMATION ON HOW TO ATTACK SOME OF THE MORE DENSE AREAS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THAT'LL TAKE US DOWN TO 1900 AND 1901 CENTURY BOULEVARD.
SO AGAIN. SO THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS ITEM HAS COME BEFORE YOU.
SO SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED NEW MATERIALS THAT REDUCE THE, REMOVE THE NEED FOR PREVIOUS VARIANCE NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS THE REDUCTION OF THE WEST SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR COMMERCIAL DUMPSTER.
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ALL OTHER VARIANTS AND WAIVER REQUESTS ARE STILL APPLICABLE.SO AS A RECAP, THE SITE CONTAINS JUST UNDER 16 ACRES.
THERE ARE THREE FIVE STORY BUILDINGS PROPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED, WHICH TOTAL APPROXIMATELY 3700 OR 374,000FT² OF COMBINED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL FLOOR AREA.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE 320 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, BRINGING IT TO A DENSITY OF ABOUT 20 UNITS PER ACRE AND APPROXIMATELY 10,000FT² OF GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PARCEL.
SO SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THEIR OFFER TO PROVIDE A 20 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF A TRAIL BY AN AS YET UNIDENTIFIED PARTY. THE CITY ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THIS PROPOSAL AND RECOMMENDED THAT THIS INSTEAD BE A 30 FOOT PERMANENT EASEMENT WITH A TEN FOOT TEMPORARY ACCESS EASEMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PERMANENT EASEMENT.
THIS SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.45 ACRES. WHOOPS.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.45 ACRES AND IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO PROPERTY ALSO OWNED BY THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE, JUST DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH. OUR STAFF REPORT HAS BEEN UPDATED TO NOTE THESE CHANGES AND UPDATED TO INCLUDE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY ENGINEER, AS WELL AS THE TIMING FOR BOTH THE EASEMENT AND THE DEDICATION OF LAND TO THE CITY.
THE APPLICANTS ALSO PROVIDED UPDATED PLANS, SHOWING THE INCLUSION OF TWO COMMERCIAL UNITS ADDED TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE, WHICH ENGAGES WITH THE TRAIL EASEMENT THAT THEY HAVE OFFERED TO PROVIDE.
STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THESE STRUCTURES OTHER THAN THE PARKING PROVIDED.
BECAUSE OF THIS, OUR REPORT CONTAINS A RECOMMENDATION OF A, RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE DOCUMENTATION OF ANY REQUIRED PARKING BEING PROVIDED FOR THOSE NEW COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF VARIANCES ONE, TWO, FOUR FIVE AND WAIVERS ONE TWO, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE. THESE CONDITIONS, THE FIRST TWO HAVE NOT CHANGED SINCE THE LAST MEETING.
CONDITION NUMBER THREE HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE LAST MEETING. CONDITION NUMBER FOUR AGAIN HAS CHANGED TO INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY ENGINEER, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON THE TIMING OF BOTH THE EASEMENT AND THE PROPERTY DEDICATION.
CONDITION NUMBER FIVE HAS BEEN ADDED REGARDING THE TRASH COLLECTION PAD TO BE USED SOLELY FOR THE TEMPORARY PLACEMENT OF COMMERCIAL DUMPSTERS DURING SCHEDULED COLLECTION AND THEN AFTERWARDS THEY WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO INCLUDE THE PROPOSED FUTURE COMMERCIAL EXHIBITS AS PART OF THEIR APPROVAL, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION REQUIRING THAT DEVELOPMENT OR THAT PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT SHOW COMPLIANCE WITH THE MINIMUM PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
AND I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS SOME AS WELL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS DAN WEBB, 1105 WEST PEACHTREE STREET, ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30309.
HERE ON BEHALF OF ALLIANCE RESIDENTIAL, I INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUES AGAIN THIS EVENING.
TO MY FAR RIGHT IS CARTER BREAM WITH ALLIANCE RESIDENTIAL.
HE'S A MANAGING DIRECTOR. AND TO HIS LEFT IS CHRIS HARRELL, THE PROJECT ENGINEER.
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I BROUGHT MY PRESENTATION FROM LAST TIME, 26 PAGES OR SO.I DON'T INTEND TO GO THROUGH IT ALL, BUT IF I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
NUMBER ONE WE HAVE REMOVED A VARIANCE. SO WE ARE NOW DOWN TO FIVE VARIANCE REQUEST AND NINE WAIVERS.
AS YOU HEARD, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF ALL THE VARIANCES, BUT ONE AND ALL WAIVERS BUT TWO.
AND I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THOSE AND LET ME GET TO MY SITE PLAN.
THE FIRST VARIANCE OR THE, THE ONLY VARIANCE REALLY AT ISSUE, AT LEAST BETWEEN US AND THE STAFF IS TO SECTION 2413 B THREE TWO, WHICH IS TO ALLOW THE PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCE TO NOT FACE CENTURY BOULEVARD.
THERE WILL BE DOORS AND SIDEWALKS THAT CONNECT TO THE STREET.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT CODE SECTION IS TO CREATE ENERGY AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE STREET, WE THINK WE'VE DONE IT. IT WOULD BE OUR HOPE, AT LEAST, TO ALLOW FOR THE GENERAL RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCES TO BE CLOSER TO THE PARKING LOT.
SO THAT'S THE BASIS FOR THE REQUEST. WE THINK WE'RE MEETING THE SPIRIT OF OF THAT PARTICULAR SECTION BY HAVING DIRECT ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT VARIANCE.
THE TWO WAIVERS REALLY RELATE TO CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
THE FIRST IS CONCRETE AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING TO WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
WE ARE SEEKING A FIVE STORY BUILDING, WHICH WILL BE STICK BUILT.
AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A WAIVER THAT HAS BEEN GRANTED HERE BEFORE.
THE OTHER IS TO ALLOW CEMENT FIBERBOARD LAP SIDING ON A BUILDING GREATER THAN THREE STORIES.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT THE BOARD AND BATTEN YOU SEE IS A FIBERBOARD.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TRIM AS WELL. SO THOSE THAT IS THE BASIS FOR THOSE TWO WAIVER REQUEST.
LET ME TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS THE PEACHTREE CREEK GREENWAY. YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN AN EXCITING ADDITION TO THIS PROJECT THAT DIDN'T IT WASN'T THERE IN THE BEGINNING. AND FRANKLY, IT WAS COUNCILMAN VEITH WHO PLANTED THE SEED FOR THIS AND COUNCILMAN MESA, WHO HELPED US SORT OF FLESH IT OUT.
RIGHT. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS.
WE ARE FINE WITH THAT. CHRIS HARRELL HAS REINFORCED A NUMBER OF TIMES.
WE'VE GOT THE SPACE TO ALLOW FOR THAT. SO THAT IS A CHANGE THAT WE SUPPORT.
THERE WAS MENTION OF JEWEL BOX COMMERCIAL AND THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING WE'VE CONSIDERED MORE RECENTLY.
AGAIN, THAT WAS SORT OF OUT OF A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN MESA. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT AT JOHNSON'S FERRY AND PEACHTREE INDUSTRIAL AND SORT OF SOME OF THE COOL ASPECTS OF THAT AND HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE SIDEWALK.
AND WE WERE ASKED TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL FUTURE LOCATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL ON THIS SIDE.
AGAIN, WE'VE GOT 10,200FT² WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS TRAIL WITHIN OUR BUILDINGS.
BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO SPOTS HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS MASTER PLAN, ONE TO THE EAST ALONG CENTURY BOULEVARD AND ONE TO THE WEST OR SORT OF SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OUR SITE. I'VE GOT BETTER BLOW UPS HERE. THIS FIRST IMAGE IS WHAT YOU SEE ALONG CENTURY BOULEVARD ON THE EAST OF OUR SITE.
WE'VE SHOWN A 2000 SQUARE FOOT FUTURE COMMERCIAL PAD THAT IS ACTUALLY JUST OUTSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT FLOODPLAIN LINE THERE. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION HERE ON THE WEST AT 3600FT².
AGAIN, IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE TRAIL AND IT IS JUST OUTSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN.
THE TRAIL NEEDS TO GO IN. WE NEED ACTIVITY THERE, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING THEM NOW FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
AND AGAIN, AS MATT MENTIONED, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES, PARKING WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THEN, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A SECOND. I WANT TO THANK OUR FOLKS FROM THE PEACHTREE CREEK GREENWAY WHO HAVE COME HERE AGAIN.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THOSE GUYS AND FRANKLY, A LOT OF INTERACTION.
WE MET WITH THEM ON SITE LAST WEEK AT 8:30 A.M..
AND HERE'S AN INTERESTING THING. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND THERE ALREADY.
OUR FIRST STOP WAS TO CROSS THE FOOTBRIDGE AND GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US.
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AND AS WE CAME ALONG THE OTHER SIDE, THERE WERE, I'D SAY, 8 TO 10 FOLKS JUST KIND OF WALKING AROUND TO THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE MARRIOTT.SO THERE'S ALREADY A LITTLE BIT OF ENERGY THERE NOW, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW GREAT IT'S GOING TO BE ONCE THIS TRAIL IS, IS ACTUALLY BUILT. AND WE'RE QUITE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND REALLY ARE FRANKLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE IT.
THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE THE CONDITIONS, AND I'VE SENT OUT A COPY OF THESE TO STAFF.
WE ARE FINE WITH THE STAFF CONDITIONS, NUMBER ONE, BUT WE'RE ASKING TO MODIFY TWO JUST SLIGHTLY.
AT THE TIME WE SUBMIT FOR THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT.
ALLIANCE WILL NOT OWN THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME IT SUBMITS TO THE LDP.
IT ACTUALLY WILL NOT. A CONDITION OF CLOSING IS TO GET THE PERMIT.
SO ONCE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, ALLIANCE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS ALSO LANGUAGE IN HERE TO ADDRESS THE DEDICATION OF THAT EXTENSION OF THE PARK TO OUR NORTH.
WE'RE FINE WITH THE TIMING PROPOSED BY STAFF, AND IT'S REALLY TIED TO A CEO THERE.
THE OTHER CHANGES IN ITEM SIX. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT I THINK WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THIS.
YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, THE INTENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IS TO BUILD THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE PARKING WILL BE FIGURED OUT THEN. RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL KNOW WHAT'S ON THE GROUND. WE'LL KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE GOT RESTAURANT, RETAIL, FITNESS IN THE 10,200FT² PROPOSED, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE PARKING NEED IS. AND THEN SO WE JUST ASK THAT THAT ISSUE BE CLARIFIED, THEIR PARKING BE ADDRESSED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND EITHER IT BE PROVIDED OR VARIANCE SOUGHT.
ULTIMATELY, OUR REQUEST IS THAT ALL THE VARIANCES AND WAIVERS SOUGHT ARE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO STAFF CONDITIONS, AS WE PROPOSE TO REVISE THEM. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. ONE IS PROBABLY FOR MATT.
THE IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, WHERE MAYBE PARKING.
IF YOU, THE LETTER OF THE LAW CONFLICTED, MAYBE, BUT BUT I IMAGINE THE USES THE THE RESIDENTS IN MAXIMUM PARKING TIME VERSUS WHEN THE RESTAURANTS MIGHT NEED IT MIGHT BE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
LIKE, WAS IT A BREAKFAST PLACE? IS IT A LUNCH PLACE? IS IT A NIGHTCLUB? AND HOW THAT MIGHT INTERACT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING AT THAT TIME? SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND I CERTAINLY THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY CONSIDER WHAT ACTUALLY ENDS UP GOING IN THERE BEFORE WE DECIDE IF THEY HAVE TO. YOU KNOW, THERE'S VALET OPTIONS TOO, YOU KNOW, IN SOME SITUATIONS.
A SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT THAT. IT WOULD BE OKAY.
TO HAVE THAT SUBMITTED FORMALLY. RIGHT. THAT IS ONE OF THE WAYS TO ADDRESS THE PARKING.
OKAY. SO THAT WOULD FULLY BE COMPLIANT WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CONDITION.
SURE. AND TO THAT POINT, WE'RE FINE WITH THE ADDED LANGUAGE THERE.
SO WE WOULD ADD THAT AS A CONDITION AS ADD THAT THAT THAT LANGUAGE.
THE ONLY THING I'D SAY ON THE CONDITIONS IS INSTEAD OF TYING THE EASEMENT TO WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY, JUST BEFORE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THAT WOULD BE STAFF'S PREFERENCE.
WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST TOO, I BELIEVE THAT WAY.
AND THEN IT SHOWS CLEARLY SHOWS ALL THE EASEMENTS FOR ALL THE, NOT RAIL TRAIL, PCG PROJECT THAT'S TIED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE DAN CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT WHAT WHAT IS THE, IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY DOCUMENTATION OF THE OTHER, THE EXTENSION THAT GOES UP TO CLAREMONT ROAD AND THE OTHER EXTENSION THAT GOES IN THE OTHER DIRECTION TOWARDS DEKALB COUNTY AND 85 OR WHATEVER.
I THINK THERE WAS A MEETING OR TWO WITH THE CITY ON THAT ISSUE TOO.
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THROUGH CENTURY CENTER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS LIES THAT NEVER APPEARED.SO THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO DO ANYTHING ON PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ENTITLEMENT OR TO. SO, I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO I'M JUST I THOUGHT IT EXISTED.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING. I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO.
YEAH. IF YOU COULD HELP MOVE THAT ALONG, IT'D BE HELPFUL.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY ACTUALLY TIED TO THIS PROJECT. SO LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, RIGHT? SURE. WITH THE EXTENSION FROM THE WEST SIDE OF OUR SITE TO CLAREMONT.
THEY SAID, YEAH, WE'RE TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. THEY OWN ALL THAT LAND, RIGHT? AND THEN WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. BUT I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF IN WRITING FROM THAT. LET ME SEE WHAT I CAN DO.
[INAUDIBLE]. THEORETICALLY EXIST.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST. SO I WOULD JUST KIND OF LET THEM KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL WORK ON THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? GOOD. ALL RIGHT. TAKES US DOWN TO 5037 PEACHTREE ROAD.
OKAY. SO SINCE LAST WE MET ON THIS, STAFF HAS RECEIVED UPDATED PLANS.
THIS AGAIN IS A 14 UNIT MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ALONG PEACHTREE ROAD.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED NEW MATERIALS THAT HAVE ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR VARIANCE NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX VARIANCE NUMBER EIGHT AND WAIVERS NUMBER THREE AND FIVE. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT AND JUST SORT SHORTLY POINT THOSE AREAS OUT.
THE APPLICANT IS SECURED AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE RAILROAD TO USE A PORTION OF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY FOR PARKING AND TO LOCATE THEIR DUMPSTER ON THE SITE. I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALSO BROUGHT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THAT TONIGHT REGARDING THE DURABILITY OF THAT EASEMENT.
THE UPDATED RENDERING OF THE SITE SHOWS COMPLIANCE WITH THE TREE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENT TO PLANT LANDSCAPING IN THE LANDSCAPE ZONE ALONG PEACHTREE ROAD. AS DESIGNED, THE PROJECT WOULD EXCEED THE REQUIRED 12.9IN OF DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT TREE DENSITY, AND WOULD INSTEAD PROVIDE 16IN DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF VARIANCES FIVE, SIX, EIGHT, THREE AND FIVE.
THOSE INCLUDE THE VARIANCES, WHICH ARE NO LONGER NEEDED BECAUSE THE PLANS NOW SHOW COMPLIANCE AND APPROVAL OF VARIANCES ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SEVEN AND NINE AND WAIVERS ONE, TWO AND FOUR.
SO STAFF DOES HAVE TWO CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD STILL RECOMMEND.
SO THE SITE BE CONSTRUCTED IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMITY WITH THE SITE PLAN DATED RECEIVED BY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ON MARCH 6TH, AS REVISED TO REFLECT THE DENIED VARIANCES AND WAIVERS AND SUBJECT TO ANY ADDITIONAL REVISIONS REQUIRED BY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND CONDITION NUMBER TWO, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL PROVIDE JULIETTE BALCONIES FOR A MINIMUM OF 60% OF THE UNITS.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF ON THIS ITEM.
HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WERE THREE POINTS.
THAT WAS THE MAJOR CONCERN. ONE WAS THE TRAFFIC.
TWO, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, NOT A COMMERCIAL.
PEAK HOURS, SIX, SEVEN, 8:00 IN THE MORNING AND COMING BACK IN THE EVENING AROUND FIVE SIX.
SO WE'RE NOT EXPECTING PEOPLE TO HAVE TOO MANY CARS ANYWAYS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PROJECT.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE CARS COME IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE FOR THE PEAK HOURS BETWEEN PROBABLY 5 TO 7 IN THE MORNING OR 6 TO 8 IN THE MORNING AND EVENING WHEN PEOPLE COME BACK HOME. SO THAT SHOULD NOT ADD TOO MUCH IMPACT THAN WHAT CURRENTLY IS.
THE SECOND ISSUE WAS I BELIEVE ONE WAS PARKING.
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THE OTHER ONE WAS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY VARIANCES.WELL, THIS IS A .19 ACRE LOT. THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH YOU CAN DO, WHICH IS SUCH A SMALL LOT.
SO WHAT WE STILL DID OUR BEST TO FIT THIS PROJECT AS BEST AS WE CAN.
BUT THERE IS JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE JUST CAN'T GET AROUND IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE'RE ASKING SOME OF THOSE VARIANCES AND WAIVERS.
THE THIRD ISSUE WAS FOR THE I GUESS THE PARKING LEASES WITH THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN GUYS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LEASE THAT'S READY FOR SIGNATURE.
AND ONE OF THE CONCERN WAS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE LEASE EXPIRES.
SO I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM NORTH FORK SAYING THESE ARE EVERGREEN LEASES AND THEY REALLY DON'T EXPIRE.
THEY JUST KEEP GOING ON UNTIL ONE OF US CANCELS IT.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY HAVE IT WITH EVERYBODY ON THE SAME STREET, INCLUDING A BIGGER PROJECT, THE PET HOSPITAL, I THINK THEY'RE CALLED THE PARENT PET PARENTHOOD. I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALSO USING THE SAME SPACE FOR THE PARKING, AND THEY HAVE THE SAME EXACT LEASE. SO ACCORDING TO THEM, THAT'S, THAT'S A NORMAL LEASE FOR THEM.
AND IT JUST STAYS ON FOREVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY USE FOR THAT LAND UNLESS CITY GETS RID OF THE TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN TRACKS. BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE YOU CAN DO ON THAT PIECE ONCE IT'S GONE.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE CONCERNS. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YES. SO AS FAR AS THE PARKING SPACES GO, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY CONTROL WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS TWO CARS OR NOT, YOU CAN EXPECT, BUT THAT'S NOT CONTROLLING.
HOW WE GET LEASED. WE'LL HAVE IN OUR LEASES THAT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY WE PRE LEASE OR HAVE LEASING.
AND IF THEY HAVE. SURE. YEAH. BECAUSE WE CAN'T LEASE PROPERTIES SOMEBODY WITHOUT A PARKING.
RIGHT. SURE. YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE PERMITTED.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE CALLING US, HEY, WHERE DO WE PARK? BUT WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE CAR AND MARTA'S ANOTHER OPTION FOR YOU. I THINK YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO ASSIGNED PARKING PER UNIT.
YES. WE'LL HAVE NUMBERS ON THE PARKING SPACES.
THAT MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR BECAUSE THAT IS A. I KNOW THAT IS A CONCERN.
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
BUT AND I'M NOT REALLY THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH NORFOLK.
I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT WORKS. AND THEY ARE VERY LONG.
BUT WHAT IS YOUR OUT CLAUSE TO THAT? WHAT IS THEIR OUT CLAUSE TO THAT? DO THEY HAVE TO IS THERE IS THAT SPELLED OUT IN YOUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM? WHAT TYPE OF NOTICE? NORFOLK. SO THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE TO GIVE YOU 30 DAYS NOTICE? THAT, BUT WE HAVE AN EMAIL FROM THEM THAT THEY CAN GIVE US A FOUR YEAR OPTION IF NEEDED, IF WE WANT TO ADD THAT ON THERE.
BUT ACCORDING TO THEM, THIS THIS EVERGREEN LEASE, I MEAN, THEY NEVER THEY'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THEM.
YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE 300 POUND GORILLA FOR ME.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DO IF IT DOES GET CANCELLED? DO YOU HAVE PLACES THAT YOU CAN'T RENT? I MEAN, WHAT I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE.
YEAH, I KNOW AND AND BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, I, I SPENT TIME IN AN APARTMENT WHEN I WAS MOVING AND, YOU KNOW, I, I DO KNOW THAT THE PARTICULAR PLACE I WAS, THERE WAS NO OTHER OPTION.
YO U HAD TO JUST KEEP DRIVING AROUND IN YOUR PARKING LOT TILL YOU FIND IT. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO PLACE TO GO AND PARK OVERNIGHT AND GET UP AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING AND MOVE YOUR CAR. I MEAN, IT JUST DIDN'T EXIST. AND I HAVE A FEELING DUE TO YOUR LOCATION, THERE ARE PROBABLY A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUR RESIDENTS TO PROBABLY POTENTIALLY BORROW A PARKING SPACE OVERNIGHT, OR IF THEY CAN'T FIND ONE IN THE MORNING.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF TEETH WE HAVE, BUT I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ASSIGNED PARKING OR I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OR MATTER OR WHAT, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY HAVE HIS OWN ASSIGNED PARKING FOR SURE.
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YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE COME IN.AND YOU CAN'T PARK AT MOONDOG'S AND YOU CAN'T PARK IT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PARK REST OF THE PARKING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME VISITORS PARKING.
WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SUGGEST IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM TO SOLVE.
THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THE PROJECT DOCUMENTS FOR THIS SITE SO THAT WE COULD REFERENCE BACK TO IF AT THE TIME IN THE FUTURE, AT SOME POINT LEASES ARE GIVEN OUT WITHOUT ASSIGNED PARKING, WE COULD THEN POINT BACK TO THAT AND HAVE A DOCUMENTARY RECORD OF IT.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A DRAFT OF THAT. I THINK WE ALWAYS TRY TO THINK ABOUT THE WHAT IFS.
AND I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND THE NORFOLK DOES HAVE A LONG TERM AGREEMENT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS PLAN B IF THAT DAY COMES AND.
EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE SAME STREET, BUT WE, BUT WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE CAN'T LOOK AT WE HAVE TO HAVE A, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IF I CAN SAY IF IF THAT COMES TO BE, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU KNOW, A RESTAURANT OR A REAL ESTATE OFFICE LOSING ITS PARKING AND 14 APARTMENTS WITH PEOPLE LIVING IN IT, LOSING IT, THAT'S A DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT CASE.
SO JUST TO SAY WHAT IS WHAT IT IS, IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE.
BUT NORFOLK HAS DONE A GOOD JOB CONVINCING US THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
SO IT'S NOT A CONCERN JUST FOR YOU GUYS. IT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR US AS WELL.
AND WE ARE READY TO TAKE THE CHANCE BASED ON THE REPUTATION THAT NORFOLK HAS WITH THE CITY AND WITH EVERYONE ELSE ALONG THE SAME ROAD, AND NOT JUST CHAMBLEE. I MEAN, THEY THEY HAVE NATIONWIDE, THEY HAVE THE SAME PROJECTS ALL AROUND.
AND ACCORDING TO THEM, THEY DO THIS EVERYWHERE THEY GO.
SO DO YOU HAVE OTHER PROJECTS AROUND THE METRO AREA? CHAMBLEE? NO. IN METRO. ANYWHERE IN THE METRO AREA, DO YOU HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE BUILT? NO, NOT. NOT WITH NORFOLK. NO. WELL, YES. IN GRIFFIN IN GRIFFIN, GEORGIA.
YES. WE LEASE A PARKING FOR THEM, FROM THEM AS WELL.
AND THAT'S I CAN SHOW YOU THE LEASE. I MEAN, THAT GOES BACK 30 YEARS.
YOU BUILD IT, AND THEN YOU FLIP IT AND THEN IT BECOMES SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED. I KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I NEED SOME ASSURANCE THAT THERE IS A PLAN B, THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT AS YOU CAN'T HAVE APARTMENTS WITHOUT PARKING AND ANY, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I KNOW WHOLE FOODS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT PARKING PARKING LOT OVER THERE IS NOT HEAVILY USED.
THERE MIGHT BE A SHARED AGREEMENT WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT COULD LOOK AROUND AT YOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS AND SEE SOME SHARED AGREEMENTS WITH THEM. BUT JUST, JUST FOR ME, I, I, I NEED SOME ASSURANCE IN SOME WAY THAT THAT DAY IS NOT GOING TO COME WHERE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE PARKING FOR YOUR PROJECT. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN HAVE ENOUGH PARKING TO SHARE WITH US.
THE ONLY LOGICAL PARTNER WOULD BE WHOLE FOODS.
I THINK PEOPLE ALREADY PARKED THERE. I THINK IT'S A PAID PARKING.
I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT OVER THERE.
SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. MY, MY RECOMMENDATION ABOUT CONDITIONING BASED ON A LEASE WOULD BE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LEASES THEMSELVES, NOT FOR THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN LEASE, BUT COUNCIL COULD ALSO CONSIDER A CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO APPLY
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FOR A SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT TO PROVIDE THE SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF PARKING UNITS IF THE NORFOLK SOUTHERN LEASE IS CANCELED.SO THAT WOULD TRIGGER AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT TO DOCUMENT COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.
AND IF IT'S NOT DONE, THEN IT WOULD FALL BACK ON THEM.
AT THAT POINT FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT.
IN WHATEVER SALES CONTRACT COMES ABOUT, WHEN YOU GO TO SELL, YOUR PROJECT.
HAS TO BE, YEAH, BECAUSE THEY CAN COME BACK AND SUE US LATER.
SO IT HAS TO BE. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THAT TAKES US DOWN TO 3392 CHAMBLEE DUNWOODY ROAD.
COMMENT, IF YOU IF YOU'LL JUST HANG AROUND FOR A MINUTE.
OKAY. WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ABOUT 3392 CHAMBLEE DUNWOODY.
NOT AS FAR AS THE ZONING, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.
I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO COME WHEN THE DESIGN COMES FORWARD. YEAH. CORRECT. PARTICULARLY ABOUT FOR OWNERSHIP, HOW THE PROPERTY LOOKS AND SETBACKS AND ALL OF THAT MESS.
YEAH. I GOT TO SAY, IT'S THE DARNDEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN.
BUT IF THERE'S A MARKET FOR IT. I MEAN, YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. I'LL NEVER BE RENTING A SPACE, BUT.
OR BUYING A SPACE I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE.
YEAH. THAT'S NOT MY CAR IN THE PICTURE, BUT FUN BUSINESS TO BE IN.
WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP AND IT WORKS OUT AMAZINGLY WELL.
THE ONE THING AND THE REASON WE DID HOLD BACK ON THE DESIGN WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK FOR. AND I KNOW IT'S UP TO US TO COME UP WITH THAT.
OUR CONTRACTOR IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT. AND ONE THING THAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS TRIP IS TO GO AROUND AND GET THE VIBE AND THE FEEL OF CHAMBLEE AND KIND OF ESTABLISH WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO FIT THE BEST BECAUSE THAT'S OUR MAIN INTENTION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS TRIP BESIDES, YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING TONIGHT IS ALL ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND YOU MAYOR, THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE CHAMBLEE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THERE NOW.
SO THAT'S PRETTY BIG ON OUR PLATE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE WE BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT FITS AND, AND IS AN ASSET. SO I ENVISION THIS SORT OF LIKE THE HANGAR HANG AT THE AIRPORT WHERE THE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ACCURATE. THAT'S VERY ACCURATE.
AND I, WE, WE USE THE WORD COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME.
AND I KNOW I'M PROBABLY OVERUSING IT TONIGHT, BUT IT IS THE BASIS OF WHAT WE DO.
YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE AND A PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE WANT, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY STORAGE, BUT IS SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. THE CAMARADERIE.
IT'S ALWAYS HARD FOR ME TO FIND THE, THE ELEVATOR PITCH, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, WHAT DO YOU DO? AND I GIVE IT TO THEM. THEY DON'T KNOW IF I BUILD CONDOS, IF I COME AND REBUILD YOUR REC ROOM OR I BUILD MINI STORAGE.
ONE OF MY CLIENTS CAME TO ME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU BUILD? AND I SAID, WHAT? HE SAID, YOU BUILD COUNTRY CLUBS WITHOUT THE GOLF. AND THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS, BIRDS OF A FEATHER.
AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY A COOL THING TO BE INVOLVED WITH.
SO LET ME ASK YOU THAT. THERE WOULD BE NO, YOU, YOU SAID THIS AND I'M JUST GOING TO REPEAT IT.
THERE WILL BE NO OVERNIGHT STAYS CORRECT. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT BUY THESE UNITS DON'T LIKE TO WORK ON THEIR VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.
THE VEHICLES IN QUESTION RANGE FROM 200,000 TO 1,000,005.
WELL, THAT'S SEE, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DETAILING THESE VEHICLES.
WELL, THEY'RE THEIR OWN. SO IF I OWN ONE OF THESE UNITS, WHAT.
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DETAILING THEIR OWN PERSONAL VEHICLES, NOT SOMEBODY ELSE. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT.I UNDERSTAND THAT, HOWEVER THAT THAT SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING TO GO ON THERE.
YES. I MEAN, I'M A BOATER. I'M NOT A CAR PERSON, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO THE FACT THAT I'M STANDING HERE TALKING ABOUT CAR PROJECTS IS KIND OF CRAZY. SO BASICALLY IN MY UNIT, I HAVE A FEW BOATS. THEY'RE SMALLER, BUT I'M VERY PARTICULAR.
SO IN MY SPARE TIME, WHEN I GO OVER THERE TO KIND OF HANG OUT AND DECOMPRESS, I'M WAXING AND, YOU KNOW, NO MAJOR, YOU KNOW, MODIFICATIONS, NO ENGINE WORK, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
OUR CLIENTS ARE PARTICULAR. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WRENCHING GOING ON, SO TO SPEAK, IF I WANT TO USE SLANG. THEY'RE BASICALLY BUILDING THEM FOR SHOWROOMS FOR THEIR CARS TO KIND OF GO IN THERE AND HANG OUT AND LOOK AT.
ENOUGH [INAUDIBLE] FOR THAT. SO. THIS IS, [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS COMING FROM. [INAUDIBLE].
BUT WE DON'T. ALLOW MECHANIC SHOPS TO NOT EXIST OR TO EXIST RATHER WITHOUT BEING ATTACHED TO A CAR DEALERSHIP. WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE IF YOU TOOK A TOUR OF ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND YOU WALKED THROUGH EACH OF THE UNITS, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS A LOT OF FANCY CARS AND NOT A LOT OF WORKSTATIONS.
THEY'RE BASICALLY MORE MUSEUMS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THAN AUTO, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOPS. [INAUDIBLE] UP WITH.
ARE IN THAT THE TWO SIDES OF THAT. I LOVE THAT YOU SAID THAT.
I'LL GET BACK TO COMMUNITY. WE HAVE OYSTER ROASTS.
WE HAVE GATHERINGS AT OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WHERE YOU CAN COME.
WHAT THEY WORKED HARD FOR, THEY'RE PROUD OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR CARS.
SO THEY COME IN, YOU CAN EAT, DRINK, THE KIDS RUN AROUND, THE GUYS TALK ABOUT CARS.
[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE ADVERTISE THEM.
IT'S IT'S IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN IF YOU'RE NOT LIKE, I LIVE IN THIS WORLD.
SO IT'S, IT'S BECOME NORMALCY FOR ME. IF YOU TOLD ME FIVE YEARS AGO THAT IT WOULD GROW TO THIS EXTENT TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COST, I WOULDN'T EVEN BELIEVE YOU.
BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY A COOL THING TO BE INVOLVED WITH AND TO SEE GROW AND TO SEE WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT EXTERNALLY, HOW IT BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY COOL. SECURITY. YEAH.
THAT'S THAT'S ALL THE WAY AROUND. AND THE, THE GATE HAS WORKED OFF OF AN APP.
I WILL SAY FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT IT BUGS ME A LITTLE BIT THAT THAT LITTLE CORNER IS GOING TO BE LEFT, NOT AN IDSVC, SEE THE PIECE THAT GOES OVER TO BLACKBURN WAY.
IT'S A SHAME THAT'S JUST HANGING OUT. THERE WAS A BIT OF A STRAGGLER. TALKS WITH THE OWNERS THERE, AND WE'VE RECEIVED FAVORABLE RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO COME IN AND PURCHASE.
WE KIND OF HELD OFF ON MARKETING AND GETTING INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT MUCH UNTIL WE GET THAT APPROVAL AND WE DO MOVE FORWARD AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SUCCESS IN THE SALES END OF IT.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT ACTUALLY UNDER PLACE WITH AN AGREED TO AMOUNT WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE THAT CORNER LOT, EXTEND THE BUILDINGS DOWN, AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF THE SIDE ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TALKING ABOUT. THE HOUSE WITH THE.
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HOUSE IS ON THE CORNER, BUT WE'VE ALREADY MADE INROADS WITH THAT WITH THE OWNER TO PURCHASE THAT IF WE WISH.YEAH. SO SELF STORAGE IS NOT AN ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL.
AND I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS IS JUST SELF STORAGE.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE HALO EFFECT THAT THIS COULD BRING TO THE COMMUNITY? SURE. WHAT WE SEE IN OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES IS WE END UP FINDING AREAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BY DIVINE INTERVENTION OR WITH JUST, YOU KNOW BY HAPPENSTANCE, WE END UP BY REGIONAL AIRPORTS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE WE'RE AT HERE.
BUT WE ALSO END UP IN REVITALIZATION ZONES. WE NEED TO BE WITHIN 20 MINUTES FROM DRIVEWAY TO DRIVEWAY OF WEALTH BECAUSE IF YOU GO TOO FAR OUT, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO DRIVE THAT FAR. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO GO HANG OUT AND LOOK AT THEIR CARS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DRIVE AN HOUR. SO WE TRY TO BUY PROPERTY CLOSE TO, THE WELL, SO TO SPEAK.
THAT'S EASY TO GET TO. BUT WHAT THAT COMES WITH IS OUR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
WE HAVE FIVE UNDERWAY. AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE DONE MANY OF THESE.
THE BENEFIT TO THIS IS WHEN OUR FOLKS ARE OVER THERE AND THEY NEED A SANDWICH, OR THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DRINK, OR THEY WANT TO GO WITH THEIR BUDDIES TO EAT OR WHATNOT.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A LOT, A LOT OF THAT COMING OUT OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS GUYS ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY OR, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY NIGHT OR WHATEVER, THEY END UP SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 5 OR 6 OF US HERE. LET'S GO GRAB A BEER. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO IN ALMOST ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS, THAT HAS HAPPENED.
SO WE END UP LOCATING OURSELVES IN A SIMILAR ZONE AS WE ARE NOW.
SO ALL THE LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA WILL BE SUPPORTED BY OUR POTENTIALLY 2026 OWNERS.
YEAH. SORRY, JIMMY. I GOT YOU. THERE, THERE, THERE WOULD YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO STOP BY.
YOU KNOW, DECOMPRESS OR HANG OUT OR WHEREVER YOU'RE THERE. AND THEN THERE'S ONE, 2 OR 3 OTHER OWNERS THAT SHOW UP AND THEN THEY ALL END UP IN YOURS OR THEIRS, YOU KNOW, CONGREGATING AND, AND THEY GO, HEY, DID YOU EAT LUNCH? NO.
YOU WANT TO GO TO LUNCH? YOU WANT TO. SO THERE'S 4 OR 5 RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, GREEK, MEXICAN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A TWO MINUTE DRIVE OF US. SO WE ALL JUST JUMP IN A TRUCK AND WE GO UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS FOR LUNCH OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. SO. AND THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
LAST QUESTION. IT MAY NOT BE MY LAST. I'M NOT MAKING ANY PROMISES.
HOW DOES THIS BUILDING ENGAGE WITH THE STREET? IN REFERENCE TO LOOKS OR? WE [INAUDIBLE] THE SAME THING WALKING BY A [INAUDIBLE] OF BUSINESS THAT HAS WINDOWS AND AND LIGHTS AND PEOPLE INSIDE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. HOW DOES THAT NOT JUST BECOME ANOTHER DARK.
THAT WILL BE ANSWERED ONCE WE SUBMIT OUR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I'M PRETTY PARTICULAR.
I'VE GOT A BRAND I'M BUILDING. PLUS I LIKE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN, SO.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT I LOOK HARD AT BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL. HOPING TO MAKE YOU PROUD. SO IT'S WELL LIT.
IT'S NOT A DARK TYPE SITUATION. BUT WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE YOU PROUD WITH OUR, WITH OUR SUBMITTALS.
ANYTHING ELSE? HOW MANY STORIES IS THE BUILDING? IT'S JUST ONE? HOW MUCH ROOF SPACE. HOW MUCH ROOF SPACE? HOW MUCH SUNLIGHT DO YOU GET INTERESTED IN PUTTING SOLAR ON TOP OF IT? WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. THE PROBLEM IS THEIR LIFETIME WARRANTY ROOFS THAT ARE ALL METAL.
AND YOU WON'T SEE THEM FROM THE STREET BECAUSE OF OUR DESIGN, BUT FASTENING PANELS TO A LIFETIME ROOF WE USE AS A SELLING FACTOR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE LEAKS. IT'S NOT SHINGLES IN ORDER TO FASHION SOLAR PANELS ON TOP THE ROOF
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OWNERS. AND THAT'S JUST A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE. LOOK INTO IT.ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US BACK DOWN TO ASHTON WOODS.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE DURING CITIZEN COMMENT. JUST HANG TIGHT FOR ME.
WE'LL GET YOU. SO MATT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR FOR OUR FRIENDS AT HOME.
THIS IS JUST A 100% ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING TODAY.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT INTO THE FOREST PRESERVE WHATSOEVER.
CORRECT? CORRECT. SO SHE HAD A QUESTION AND SHE CANNOT ASK A QUESTION.
WE CANNOT ANSWER IT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. WELL, WE CAN.
SO WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION NOW LIKE WE DO A LOT OF TIMES.
WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION. AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER IT.
THAT WAS MY POINT. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD WORKAROUND, PAUL.
SURE. GO AHEAD. BUT WE HAD WE HAD ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT HAS A QUESTION ON ANOTHER PROJECT TWO.
AND WHEN YOU KIND OF OPEN THAT DOOR, I WOULD RATHER LEAVE IT IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS.
IF WE COULD WAIT UNTIL PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND THEN DURING THIS TIME? YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU, THOUGH.
[9. Mayor and Council Items ]
TEMPORARY SIGNS, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE OKAY. SO WE I HAD BEEN APPROACHED BY ACTUALLY A COUPLE RESIDENTS OR NOT RESIDENTS, BUT BUSINESSES.AND I GUESS THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PURSUING THINGS DURING DURING THE WORLD CUP.
AND AND I GUESS THE TEMPORARY SIGN ORDINANCE IS SOMEWHAT RESTRICTIVE AND I JUST WAS EXPLORING OPPORTUNITY QUESTIONS WITH KRISTEN ABOUT IT, SAYING, LIKE, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO? IS THERE? I MEAN, HOW COULD THIS WORK? AND THEN SHE CAME UP WITH LIKE OTHER BENEFITS TO DOING THIS DURING THIS TIME.
AND I BELIEVE VIVIEN ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS A A GOOD IDEA.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, DO YOU HAVE DO YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING THAT I KIND OF BUTCHERED THAT A BIT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. AS LONG AS YOU ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
I WILL CLARIFY THAT THE CONVERSATION IS THAT IT IS A FEASIBLE THING TO DO.
YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT FOR, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO IS HAS A TEMPORARY SIGN THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE.
YOU CAN'T JUST ENFORCE IT ON A SMALL SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE.
SO YOU NEED TO WIDEN YOUR PURPOSE FOR THAT. AND THAT WAS THE INTENT BEHIND THE OTHER BENEFITS OF HAVING A MORATORIUM IN PLACE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COVERS A PURPOSE. THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT YOU SOLD ME ON IS IS CORRECT, RIGHT? SURE. I'LL TAKE THAT ONE. IT'S THE POLICY.
AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
SO. WHAT DOES TEMPORARY LOOK LIKE? YES. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION. COULD BE 30 DAYS.
IT COULD BE 60 DAYS. IT COULD BE 90 DAYS. IT COULD BE WHATEVER.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER WE DECIDE. RIGHT? KRISTEN? YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIDE THAT TIME FRAME.
I MEAN, IT'S YOUR ORDINANCE, RIGHT? I MEAN, JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE CODE, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WANT TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT BY 30 DAYS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT.
IF YOU WANT US TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK FOR 30 DAYS, WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT I WOULD SUGGEST DOING THAT BY WAY OF A TIME STAMPED TIME FRAME.
MORE MORATORIUM RESOLUTION. OKAY. IS THERE ANY CONSENSUS OF WHAT THAT TIME FRAME MAY.
I'M NOT THERE YET. SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. WHAT ARE YOU THEN ASKING THAT WE IN SOME FORM SUSPEND THE TEMPORARY SIGN ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER? YES, BUT YOU CAN WE CAN WE CAN TAKE MODIFICATIONS ON IT.
OKAY. SO THAT'S THE BASIC IDEA. WHERE? OR FOR WHOM? I BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS DOING THAT AND SINGLING OUT A SPECIFIC PART OF THE CITY AND NOT THE ENTIRE CITY IS A LITTLE
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STICKY. MY INTENT WAS THE ENTIRE CITY. OKAY, THAT WASN'T CLEAR.I AM CERTAIN THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, BEING GOOD BUSINESS CITIZENS OF OUR CITY, WILL FOLLOW THE RULES. BUT I ALSO KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHERS WHO WON'T.
AND HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL WORK DO WE WANT TO PUT UNDER OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THIS? I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK, AND IT'S PROBABLY WE COULD GET SOME INPUT ON. BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT. SO BUT I, I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT RESEARCH IF THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE.
WELL, FOR ME, IT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION THAN A MECHANICAL QUESTION.
IT'S MORE PHILOSOPHICAL FOR ME THAN IT IS MECHANICAL. AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PUNCH A HOLE IN THE BARREL AND THEN HAVE TO CLOSE IT BACK UP AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR.
AND IS THIS FOR THE PERIOD OF THE SOCCER? HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED YET.
OH, OKAY. IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE MORE.
IT CAN BE A LITTLE LESS. IT CAN BE RIGHT ON. IT COULD BE.
OKAY. I NEED I NEED GUIDANCE THOUGH. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE IF IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
SO LIKE SOMETHING YOU WANT ME TO WORK ON BETWEEN NOW AND TUESDAY YES. PARTS OF IT IS TO OVERCOME A HARDSHIP. YES IT IS.
FROM PEOPLE THAT REALLY AREN'T HAVING A HARDSHIP, THEY JUST WANT TO DO A TEMPORARY SIGN.
WHAT? I SAID, WE NEED TO GET WITH YOU AND NAIL THIS DOWN.
NAIL HIM DOWN, NAIL HIM DOWN.[LAUGHS] I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
ALL RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER FURST HAS A DRESDEN/PLASTER SSD EXPANSION.
ABSOLUTELY. SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE IMPLEMENTED THE SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICT AROUND DRESDEN PARK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT DRESDEN PARK, WE'RE PUTTING $40 MILLION INTO IT. WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE MORE UPKEEP, MORE BEAUTIFICATION, MORE SECURITY THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THAT AREA.
AND WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THAT. DRESDEN PARK LOOKS AMAZING.
THE PARK IS BEING USED HEAVILY. IF ANYBODY'S BEEN OUT THERE ON A FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, IT DOESN'T MATTER ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. IT'S IT'S PACKED. IT'S HUGE. THERE'S A FULL TIME CREW DEDICATED TO THAT PARK.
NOW THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. I WANT TO CONTINUE THIS SUCCESS.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BEAUTIFICATION. I WANT TO CONTINUE THE SECURITY THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THAT AREA.
THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN POINTS, BEAUTIFICATION, SECURITY.
AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER PIECE TO THIS WITH DRESDEN TRAIL COMING ONLINE SOON.
AND THIS IS WHY I'M PROPOSING EXPANDING OUT TO SSD.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO GIVE CONSENT THIS EVENING TO THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK ON MAPS, ON WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT KIND OF FUNDS THAT COULD BRING IN.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FURST HAS MADE HIS SALES PITCH.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. WITH. OKAY WITH LETTING KRISTIN PUT A LITTLE WORK INTO IT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND JUST FYI, THIS ITEM WON'T BE ON TUESDAY'S AGENDA.
IT WAS JUST AN INFORMATION ITEM. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD.
ALL RIGHT. NOW THAT'LL TAKE US DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
[10. Public Comments]
AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WAITING. THE MAYOR IS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.ALL REMARKS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS A BODY, NOT TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL COME TO THE MICROPHONE. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE CITY CLERK. LIMIT REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS FURTHER TIME IS GRANTED BY COUNCIL NOT SPEAK A SECOND TIME UNTIL EVERYONE WISHING TO SPEAK HAS SPOKEN ONCE. NO ONE CAN SPEAK MORE THAN TWICE. PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE AND HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED.
COME ON UP. TELL US WHAT'S WRONG. AND I AM THE TIMEKEEPER.
SO IF YOU HIT THREE MINUTES, IT'S GOING TO BE ABRUPT, SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE.
SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. I CAN I THINK I CAN DO IT IN IN TWO MINUTES.
GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS WILLIAM ENNIS. 2223 MEDFIELD TRAIL, HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT IMMEDIATELY TO CENTURY CENTER.
SO I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO SPECIFICALLY THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
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HOWEVER, YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE PROJECT MUST CHANGE WHEN THE ELEMENT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE IS ADDED.THE PROPOSED PATHWAY DOES NOT SOLELY BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A STRETCH OF CLAREMONT ROAD IN FRONT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SOLELY BENEFITS MY NEIGHBORS. CLAREMONT ROAD SERVICES THE ENTIRE ATLANTA AREA, AND IT SERVES CHAMBLEE BY IMPORTING COMMERCE TO THE CHAMBLEE BUSINESSES ALONG IT. ROADS BRING COMMERCE AND TRADE. THEY ARE THE FOUNDATION OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
CHAMBLEE WILL BE CAPTURING INCOME FROM BROOKHAVEN, ATLANTA, DECATUR AND PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE METRO AREA THAT EITHER TRAVEL ALONG THE GREENWAY OR TRAVEL TO IT FOR RECREATIONAL USE.
THIS IS AN ENORMOUS SHIFT TOWARDS GROWTH DYNAMICS.
THE WEALTHIEST STATES IN THE COUNTRY HAVE ECONOMIES BASED ON TOURISM OR EXPORTS.
EVEN ATLANTA, AKA TERMINUS, WAS ACTUALLY CONCEIVED AS A MODERN TRANSPORTATION HUB.
ESTABLISHING COMMERCE ON TRANSPORTATION RECREATION NETWORKS IS THE VERY MEANING OF LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS IN THIS ENDEAVOR CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THIS.
THEY WERE WILLING TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING PHASE AND INVEST MORE TIME AND ENERGY INTO THE REDESIGN OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE COMMERCIAL SPACE, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PRINCIPLES AT PLAY HERE.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR THE CITIZENS OF CHAMBLEE AND THE BUSINESSES IN CHAMBLEE TO CONVINCE THE OFFICIALS OF THIS TOWN TO SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT GROW AND STRENGTHEN IT? IF WE DON'T SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, WE WILL BE MISSING A TREMENDOUS REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITY THAT WE MAY NEVER GET BACK.
TWO MINUTES, 46 SECONDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH [LAUGHS]. I APPRECIATE YOU.
ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, I APPRECIATE THAT.
TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. [INAUDIBLE] JOHNSON 6.9.
ASHCROFT. AND I'M HERE FOR THE PRUITT HEALTH CARE.
THE THOSE PARCELS I BACK UP TO TRACT ONE. AND BOTTOM LINE, THERE'S BEEN CONFUSION WHO OWNS THAT TRACT THERE. MY NEIGHBORS AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S NEVER BEEN TITLED TO THE CITY WHEN THE OTHER TRACKS WERE TITLED TO HEALTH CARE.
IS THERE A PLAN TO RESOLVE THIS TITLE ISSUE? DOES THE CITY REALLY GOING TO HAVE CLEAR TITLE AND FILE A DEED OF OWNERSHIP? OKAY, I'M GOING TO PUT YOU IN THE CAPABLE HANDS OF MATT AND AND.
THE CITY DOES HAVE DEED AND TITLE TO THAT PROPERTY.
WE HAVE NOT MAPPED IT WITH DEKALB COUNTY. EXCUSE ME.
HOW'S THAT? YOU'RE OKAY MATT. I STILL LIKE YOU.
YEAH. SORRY, MATT. DANG IT MATT [LAUGHS] THE INFORMATION AS TO.
AND NOW WE'RE HAVING A DIALOG. YEAH, YEAH. YEP.
YEAH. WE HAVE WE HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT PERSON.
NO DIALOG. TELL US TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND.
GOOD EVENING. I'M DAVID DANIEL FROM WRIGHT'S CAR CARE.
THE FREESTANDING NOT ATTACHED TO A DEALERSHIP REPAIR FACILITY.
WE'RE THE OLDEST AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR FACILITY IN THE STATE.
SO I'M ADJACENT TO THE THE ADDRESS OF 5037. I HAVE A MULTITUDE OF QUESTIONS WHICH I'LL TALK WITH MATT LATER, BUT FROM THE SURVEY AND BASICALLY THE PROPERTY AND THE PARKING, THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
14 TENANTS. I'M SURE THERE ARE HALF $1 BILLION OR MORE PER UNIT.
THAT WOULD MEAN TWO CARS PER. SO THAT'S LIKE 28 CARS.
19 WOULD BE WITH GAS. SO I HAVE A BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO I CAN'T SHOW YOU, BUT THERE'S A SECTION IN BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
SO THAT IS ABANDONED PROPERTY WHERE THE CLAREMONT BRIDGE USED TO COME IN MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, BACK IN THE 70S. SO, AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND COUNTING AND I HAVE BATTLED TO KEEP
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PEOPLE OFF OF THE PROPERTY AND THE ABANDONED AREA FOR US CONSTANTLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PARKED THERE.I'VE BEEN MAINTAINING THAT PROPERTY FOR 30 YEARS TOO.
RIGHT IN THAT SPOT. AND I'VE OVER THE MANY YEARS I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT TOO.
IF YOU ALLOW ME JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES, I COULD CLEAR UP A FEW THINGS.
SINCE I'VE BEEN LEASING FROM NORFOLK SOUTHERN FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
OKAY. AND I NOTICED IN THE SURVEY THAT ALSO THEY SHOW THE PARKING SPOTS IN THE BACK.
ON THE PROPERTY, ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT OR MY PARKING LOT THERE IS A FIBER OPTIC THAT RUNS THAT COMPLETE DISTANCE ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT, AND THERE IS NO DIGGING THERE. SO THE GENTLEMAN MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
SO THOSE PARKING SPOTS WOULD, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TO PREPARE THAT PROPERTY AND TO PUT THE PAVING IN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIG THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIT OF AN ISSUE FOR THEM.
SO I HAVE A 99 YEAR LEASE WITH NORFOLK SOUTHERN.
[INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW, IT DOES ALSO ADD SINCE PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING THERE, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS FOR ME AS FAR AS I'M GOING TO NEED A FENCE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, ENCLOSE MY WHOLE PARKING AREA.
I DO HAVE RENOVATION PLANS FOR THE FACILITY NOW THAT I OWN THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE AT THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOU.
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. COME ON UP, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MR. DUTTON, THE OWNER OF THE MAD STITCHERS.
RIGHT CLOSE TO THE 5037 PROPERTY. I DO OPPOSE THIS.
TO THE CARS, THE PARKING, THE SOUTHERN RAILROAD.
YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A MORE DISTINCTIVE IN Y'ALL'S DECISION HAVING THAT LEASE, YOU KNOW, VERIFIED BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, SEEING THAT MANY CARS AS FAR AS THE MANY YEARS THAT I'VE SPENT THERE, YOU KNOW, HAVING MY BUSINESS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONALIZED AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF THE CUSTOMERS AND THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED. BASICALLY, PEOPLE USE THAT LIKE A RAILROAD.
I MEAN, A HIGHWAY, IT'S NONSTOP. THE WHOLE FOODS SEEMS TO BE FINE, BUT THE PROPERTY WHERE I'M AT BASICALLY COULD BECOME REAL DANGEROUS ADDING MORE CONDOS OR APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING IN THAT AREA THAT BASICALLY I WOULD SEE THAT IT WOULD TAKE SOME GOOD CONSIDERATION TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING, BECAUSE EVEN IF THE PROPERTY IS LEASED, SOLD, OR WHAT AFTER IT EITHER GETS ERECTED OR WHAT THAT RAISES THE RIGHT EYEBROW TO ME OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE BUSINESS AND WHAT I HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE POPULATION, BECAUSE SIX INCHES OFF THE BUILDING IS SOUTHERN RAILROAD.
I CARRY A $2 MILLION [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION OF CHAMBLEE.
SO TECHNICALLY, IT'S FENCED IN, IT'S PRIVATE.
NOBODY CAN ACTUALLY WALK ON THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING, BUT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT UP WHEN DECEASED ANIMAL WAS THERE OR, YOU KNOW, THE ANGEL PET ASSEMBLY THERE. WE'VE NOT HAD REALLY ANY PROBLEM, BUT TECHNICALLY, I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, YOUR EVALUATION WHEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION, WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD OR WHAT. BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE OVERCROWDED.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH PARKING SPACE BASICALLY FOR THAT FACILITY.
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD THE AUTOMOTIVE, THE VAULT.
SINCE I'M IN THAT BUSINESS, I WOULD PROBABLY PAY A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO APPROVE THAT BECAUSE I'M INTO THE HIGH DOLLAR CARS THE RESTORATION AND STUFF.
SO THAT DOES IN MY HEART BENEFIT ME AND THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO STRIVE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN MY BUSINESS OPERATION IS GIVING SATISFACTION,
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CRAFTSMANSHIP. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY SAY.SO AS FAR AS THE TWO AREAS THAT I'D LIKE TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
THANK YOU. 243 AGAIN. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MY WIFE SAYS I NEED TO SPEAK QUIETLY AND NOT SO LOUD.
SO Y'ALL THINK I'M A NICE PERSON, WHICH I AM.
THIS THING WITH THIS FAULT, THE CAR THING. GREAT THING FOR CHAMBLEE.
YOU HAVE WAREHOUSES BEHIND IT, WAREHOUSES AROUND THE CORNER.
THIS THING. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN A CAR GUY. I GOT A FRIEND OF MINE, AND HE HAS ONE.
THEY HAVE A SAME UNIT, BUT IT'S NOT HIGH END LIKE THIS.
AND WHEN I HAD OUR MAYOR OF ATLANTA, WE HAULED ALL THESE HIGH END CARS.
AND JUST LAST NIGHT I WAS UP THE KWIK TRIP, AND YOUNG MAN'S THERE WITH A $650,000 FOR A BRAND NEW PORSCHE WOULD DRIVE OUT TAG AND IT WAS PURCHASED RIGHT HERE AT ELLIS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE 8 OR 10 OF THESE CARS AT THEIR HOMES.
THEY LIVE AT CAPITAL CITY CLUB. THEY LIKE TO HAVE A PLACE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THEY GET TO GO OUT FOR A DAY OR SO, AND IN THE EVENINGS.
HE'S SO RIGHT. EVERYBODY GETS TOGETHER. LET'S GO HAVE A BEER, GUYS.
AND Y'ALL WOULD LOVE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE WAREHOUSES ALL AROUND THERE.
AND TO HAVE THAT RIGHT THERE, THAT'D BE THE BOMB.
CHANGING SUBJECT OVER ON PEACHTREE ROAD. I DON'T THINK A LICENSED REAL ESTATE AGENT CAN TELL A SINGLE MOM WITH A 16 YEAR OLD THAT SHE CAN'T HAVE TWO CARS. LICENSED REAL ESTATE AGENTS, ARE THEY ONLY CERTAIN THINGS THEY CAN SAY AND DON'T.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OWNERSHIP IN CHAMBLEE THAN APARTMENTS, APARTMENTS, APARTMENTS, APARTMENTS. AND IF YOU DIVIDE UP THE 14 APARTMENTS TO MAYBE 7 OR 8 CONDOS WITH OWNERSHIP, AND ONCE THE PERSON BUYS IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FLIPPING IT.
IN FIVE YEARS. YOU HAVE A OWNERSHIP WITH OWNERSHIP IN THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE, AND IT'S A GREAT THING TO LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF CHAMBLEE AND ENJOY THE CONCERTS AND ICE CREAM PLACES AND ALL THE ALL THE NEW THINGS REALLY GOING ON.
AND TOMORROW NIGHT YOU'LL SEE EVERYBODY HERE.
AND SEE I WAS NICE, RIGHT? DIDN'T TALK LOUD, DIDN'T SAY NEGATIVE THINGS.
ELMER. WELL, GOOD. THANKS, RONNIE. JIMMY. EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. BEST ONE YET. ALRIGHT, COME ON UP.
MY NAME IS ANDREA AND I'M A NEARBY PROPERTY OWNER.
I REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE VAULT WITH THE CARS.
I ASK THAT THE CITY CAREFULLY CONSIDER FUTURE DEVELOPMENTAL OPPORTUNITIES, TRAFFIC ACCESS, COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES, AND THE LONG TERM IMPACT ON NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DECISION.
I'VE MENTIONED THIS AND SHOWED THIS THAT WE DON'T NEED MORE APARTMENTS HERE IN CHAMBLEE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A GREENWAY IN ORDER TO BUILD THAT, THAT PROPERTY, THAT PROJECT CAN MEET CODE AND STILL HAVE A GREENWAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO YOU KNOW, HAND IN HAND.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK WHERE THEY NEED TO PARK.
SO IF A PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE APPROPRIATE PARKING, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JUST FIND SOMEWHERE TO PARK. THEY JUST DON'T GET RID OF A CAR OR NOT HAVE A CAR. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH IT.
IN TERMS OF THE CAR STORAGE, ACTUALLY, I LIKE THE PROJECT.
AND YOU CAN'T WALK INTO THEIR PROPERTIES. YOU CAN'T FORCE THAT THEY'RE IN THERE.
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THEY'RE STAYING THERE. WHO KNOWS? ARE YOU GOING TO KICK THEM OUT AT 10 P.M. EVERY NIGHT? NO.I GUESS I PROBABLY WON'T GET INVITED ANY OF HIS EVENTS, BUT MOST OF THIS COMES DOWN TO IT.
IT'S JUST KNOWLEDGE OF THIS STUFF. IF THESE ARE YOUR CONCERNS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY EVENTS, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH A GATE AROUND IT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY BE INVITED IN, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE OF AN INVITED, YOU KNOW, NOT THE PUBLIC WALKING AROUND INVITED IN.
AND IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT AND IMPROVING THAT. ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT ACTUALLY AGAINST IT. YOU PROBABLY WON'T INVITE ME, BUT THIS COMES DOWN TO THE STRICT ADHERENCE OF CODE. I WAS TOLD THAT CHAMBLEE IS TRYING TO BE STRICT ON THEIR CODE, SO CARRY THAT OUT AMONGST EVERYBODY.
MAKE THAT FAIR AMONGST EVERYBODY. AS I'VE SHOWN THE CITY, THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE BUILT IN AN OPERATION NOW THAT ARE AGAINST CODE, ABSOLUTELY AGAINST IT. NOT APPROVED WHATSOEVER.
I HAVE DONE SEARCHES AND I'VE FOUND MORE PROJECTS THAT ARE AGAINST CODE.
SO IF CHAMBLEE, YOU KNOW, BY THE WAY, THEY'RE NOT AUTOMATICALLY GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT, IT'S STILL AGAINST CODE. SO IF CHAMBLEE IS GOING TO TAKE THIS POSITION OF STRICT ADHERENCE TO CODE, ABSOLUTELY NO WAVERING, THEN JUST DO IT FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL? ANYONE? EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING? OH THANK GOD.[LAUGHS] ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US. WE'RE OUT OF HERE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.